all right alley, breathe, breathe...i know i'm a big ass... i'm well aware...but heres the good thing :) i(and by i, i mean someone else) will be able to fix it...i know its hiddious...i know....but it wont be for long!...well it 6 am i want to sleep..i've been working* screwing around with this for 4 hours now...i think i derserve a break...thanks to jeff for trying to and keeping me company in the wee hours....im going to listen to cinderella now...good morning to you...